Creationist John Mackay comes to blight Blighty

 

John Mackay, the Australian creationist who exorcises cats and dogs is back in Britain and is due to speak in a Methodist Church  near Lancaster on 19th October.

He was here in 2003 and 2006  and in 2003 I had the displeasure of debating him in Scorton near Lancaster. That was an odd experience. I was invited by a local supporter in Scorton. I went along to the village hall and was offered the chance to bat first.

I soon got used to the hisses and boos if I said anything remotely respectable whether as science or Christian Belief. Several of there found the atmosphere most unpleasant and one, a far better scientist than I ever could have been, described it as demonic and he meant it.

Well, then Mackay went to the crease. It was like a Gish gallop and untrue representations of science were delivered at great speed. I had the chance of replying and attempted to refute some of his more glaring whoppers. I was booed and hissed at again. I am still trying to reconcile the audience’s behaviour with any Christian or other ideas of moral behaviour. Mackay’s approach was slick and at great speed with the aim of not allowing any comeback of challenge by rapidly moving on to another topic.

Then I was challenged about my faith and not even my very orthodox understanding of the resurrection passed muster with them. Despite believing in an empty tomb and bodily resurrection I was still called a heretic.

It was not a pleasant evening and I tend to agree with my friend that the devil was present. One devout lady  – a former missionary – left early as she could not take and one vicar’s wife was reduced to tears.

Three years later several vicars in my diocese asked him to speak in their churches. I put in a formal complaint to the bishop and sought to dissuade my colleagues. At least we saw him off from speaking in some schools.

I cannot understand how anyone, especially a Christian who is supposed to follow the love and truthfulness of Jesus can fall for this nasty nonsense. But then a lot do, cluding some Vice-presidents.

In the 80s Mackay fell out with Ken Ham even accusing one of his colleague’s widows of necrophilia. They fell out big time but are now best buddies again.

Here is his itinerary

http://www.creationresearch.net/2415-john-mackay-and-joseph-hubbard-uk-itinerary-october-2017

but it only includes “church ” visits and I expect he has been invited to schools, having been told he is a scientist

 

Charlie CrISIS

And of course he has debated on Premier Radio with a real scientist Prof Keith Fox. Sadly debates don’t work and a strong rhetoric backed up by bullshit is often as successful

https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Do-Genesis-and-genetics-support-a-young-earth-or-long-term-evolution-John-Mackay-vs-Keith-Fox

Why do some Christians listen to him?

 

 

 

5 thoughts on “Creationist John Mackay comes to blight Blighty

  1. Ian Dexter Palmer

    A biologist colleague told me about an Aussie that he heard speak about creationism…..must be the same fellow. My colleague was warned by the pastor who invited Mackay NOT to argue against him after his presentation, becoz he could be sued by Mackay. I was astonished by this, but it worked — my colleague did not challenge him. I can imagine how uncomfortable you must have been Michael, to be jeered and booed. Could you have threatened to walk out if the moderator didn’t control the audience? You were a brave man to stay in the room and keep debating.

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  2. wkdawson

    That must have been awful. I guess the thing with creationists is that they have been so conned into believing that if evolution is true, then the bible is false, that they cannot seem to get around that one. However, turning it into a football rally — I think even the European version is nasty but if not, at least the American one — is trashing the whole Gospel message. To win at all cost has become a form of idolatry for them, and, personally, I think it dishonors God and disgraces the name of Jesus.

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